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Old 04-14-2006, 02:39 PM
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hi, thanks for sending the article about promise ring.
try this also, Promise-Ring.Seekful.com
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Old 04-14-2006, 05:37 PM
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i guess the "token of a special level of commitment" is more appropriate for the definition o f a 'promise ring' rather than an engagement.
i totally agre with you
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:15 AM
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That's a long information. It might be interesting
But hey, I won't be able to stare at my screen and to read all these..
Thanks for posting it. The best thing to do is to print it and to read it afterwards
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Old 10-20-2006, 10:59 AM
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That's a long information. It might be interesting
But hey, I won't be able to stare at my screen and to read all these..
Thanks for posting it. The best thing to do is to print it and to read it afterwards
come on, that's hardly half a page there and still you don't want to read it? well at least you're being honest about it.
anyway...

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A promise ring is a rather ambiguous little piece of jewellery.
ambiguous for the person who doesn't know what he's promising, to whom and why

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What is a promise ring, anyway? Yes, it is a pretty little ring, usually given by one person to another, but what does it mean? What is the wearer promising? What is the giver promising? Is there an official definition?
most probably not, just as fidelity, commitment, love, life and death do not have the same meaning for everyone

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When I heard that an acquaintance had just received a promise ring from her boyfriend, I wondered what exactly that meant, but was too polite to ask.
too polite... or too embarassed to look like a dense bloke?

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Does it mean she's engaged? Planning to be engaged? Or is the ring just a nice present from her boyfriend?
she most probably would have told you, but maybe it's none of your business anyway

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One Mac student (who wishes to remain nameless)
does it look like we care?

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believes that the promise ring is "a sort of pre-engagement ring, like you're promising to be engaged." The idea is that you wear the promise ring when you intend to get married, then when you actually decide to get married in the near future, you wear an engagement ring, and after the vows are spoken you wear a wedding band.
once again, this is just another definition which is now added to the endless list of already existing definitions. and once again, should we care that this student feels this way? to begin with the student preferred to remain anonymous... which most probably means that he/she doesn't want to be honest and hence, can't be trying to do us any special good.

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It's a hierarchy of jewellery, in which each ring is more beautiful and expensive than the last.
and on top of that the student seems to be a person who is very materialistic… hence his/her opinion is not at all representative of the mass

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Others feel that the promise ring is a "token of a certain level of commitment, although not quite engagement." In this case, the promise ring is an evolution of the fraternity pin--remember all of those movies set in the 1950s, where girls would scream hysterically "I've been pinned"?
Finally one point… indeed everything lies in evolution.

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It's a promise of fidelity, of monogamy. It's also a subtle message to all would-be admirers that the wearer of the ring is already taken, and they should stay far, far away.
But does that really happen? Do admirers really stay far, far away? They don’t, do they? So don’t you think we should confine the promise to being between the two people concerned and not the whole of the world population?

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A more cynical student feels that promise rings are just something guys give their girlfriends so that neither party experiences any guilt when they have pre-marital sex. This way, if the man is accused of using his girlfriend for sex, he can point to the ring on her finger, and remind her that she possesses a physical reminder of his long-term love and commitment.
Rightly said, a CYNICAL student. Once again, not representative of the mass. What can a person, who doesn’t believe in anything other than negative things, say about something related to the beauty of love, fidelity and commitment? Or simply, a promise?

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As we all know, however, some of these relationships do end, and the promise can be broken.

That does not mean that all the promises made were not sincere and this also means that some people just use the concept of promise ring to satisfy their own selfish needs.
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Old 10-20-2006, 11:42 AM
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well, you've got a whole lot of good points Rexxazor, so am not slamming you for anything. i don't know if Erin would agree a whole lot with your views though
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Old 10-24-2006, 06:00 PM
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Another fight on the forum Oh very very scary Stop fighting, make love not war. lol make love
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:06 AM
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Another fight on the forum Oh very very scary Stop fighting, make love not war. lol make love
Not fighting, just clearing up a few confusions and misconceptions that some people have ah no mate, this time i'll choose war instead of love
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Old 11-06-2006, 10:56 AM
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According to me a promise ring is given to show our intentions not only to our partner but also to others of the society! In fact it will also put both members on a safe side in the sense that: “if you are sure about your feelings, why not showing it to me and to others?”
In other words it will bring confidence among the couple… So definitely it’s a good thing!
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:37 AM
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Hmmm! Quite interesting Karen, but I don’t think that it has something to do with society.
When 2 persons love each other they have nothing to prove to other persons!!!
However the pre-marital sex “excuse” for an engagement ring is intriguing me. Why does this way of thinking exist???
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:02 AM
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If one day I give an engagement ring to my girlfriend, it would be to show her that I truly love her and that I think she’s the right person for me… I agree with you Berni when you say that it has nothing to do with society…
Now when a guy gives an engagement ring to his girlfriend in order to have pre-marital sex, then I suppose that it’s due to society (parents)…
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